HubPages Etiquette

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By Marisa Wright

Like any site which involves public participation, HubPages has some unwritten - and unofficial - "rules". It can be confusing for a newbie, though, because different groups on HubPages can have very different views on what those rules are!

The truth is, there isn't one "HubPages etiquette" that fits all. It will depend on why you joined HubPages, and personal preference. But first, some points that apply to everyone regardless of why they're here.

Don't blow your own trumpet!
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Don't blow your own trumpet!

No Self-Promotion

If you're trying to make money online, self-promotion is vital - but the social side of HubPages is a promotion-free zone. The social side of Hubbing is not part of the income-building side of the site - it's meant to be a refuge from all that!

It's rude to:

  • Post comments on Hubs which include a link to your own Hub, website or blog.
  • Post Fan Mail to a Hubber which includes a link.
  • Create forum posts which include a link.

If you post links in your comments, the Hubber will likely deny them anyway. By all means mention you've written a related Hub, but let the Hub owner decide whether it's worthy of a link.

On the forums, you can post Hub links in the Extreme Hub Makeover thread, and the 30 Day Challenge Links thread. You may also post a link in a reply on any thread, but only if it adds value to the debate.

In a similar vein, it's impolite to:

  • Sign up to follow hundreds of Hubbers indiscriminately.
  • Send emails to other Hubbers asking them to follow you.
  • Create forum threads asking Hubbers to follow you.
  • Create multiple forum threads in quick succession just to get noticed.

No sockpuppets
No sockpuppets

Multiple Accounts

It's fine to open more than one account at HubPages, if you wish to keep your different writing personae separate - for instance, you may have one account where you write on serious business subjects, and one for your writings on sexy lingerie.

It's not acceptable to have multiple accounts, if the purpose is to whip up contentious debates with yourself on the forums, to comment on your own Hubs, or to follow yourself. Such alter egos are called sockpuppets and regarded (with spammers) as the lowest form of life on HubPages.

Horses for Courses

The "rules" above apply to all Hubbers.  Now, let's look at the two main Hubber "types" and how their paths diverge when it comes to etiquette.

Social Networkers

There is a large group of people on HubPages who joined primarily for the social network. For them, being a Hubber is about interacting with other Hubbers and gaining a readership within the community. If you're one of the crowd that joined HubPages to network with other writers, not for the money - this section is for you.

Social networking Hubbers set very high standards of etiquette. For them, politeness means:

  • if someone follows you, follow them back (unless they're clearly a spammer);
  • read, rate and comment on Hubs as often as possible;
  • reply to every comment that is left on your Hubs, even if its only "thank you";
  • interact in the forums
  • use the link suggestion tool to link to other Hubber's Hubs

However, politeness also means respecting the way other people use HubPages, so it's important to remember that not all Hubbers are at HubPages for the social life!

It's important to understand that if another Hubber chooses not to read, rate, comment, thank or follow you, they're not causing any disadvantage to you or to any other Hubber.

Social Hubbers tend to set great store by comments, accolades, followers, Hubscore and Hubber Score, and often have the misconception these will help them make more money on HubPages. In fact, they won't - they do not generate income in any way whatsoever. And that's why what I'll call "business Hubbers' are less likely to follow the social networkers' demanding etiquette.

Chatting over coffee won't make money
Chatting over coffee won't make money

"Business" Hubbers

There is also a large (but less visible!) group of people who are attracted to HubPages as a way to earn a living online.

Of course, they're not relying on Hubs alone - though I do know one Hubber who pays her rent with them (Relache). These Hubbers think of HubPages as their workplace, and behave accordingly.

Think about how you'd behave if you were running your own business. Of course you'd want to get to know the people in your office, and help out your colleagues when they needed it - but if you're going to spend all day chatting over coffee, your business won't make any money, will it?

If you've come to HubPages to make money, you need to take the same attitude: the social activities of HubPages are fun, but they're also time-consuming, and they contribute nothing to your earnings.

Many financially successful Hubbers - like Nelle Hoxie and Sunforged, who both earn well over $1000 a month - don't follow hundreds of Hubbers or thank people for every comment. In fact, there are several high-earning Hubbers you don't even know, because you never see them in the forums or commenting on Hubs. They're too busy working!

These Hubbers aren't anti-social: many of them, like Darkside, are very helpful to newbies in the forums. But they know that to make money online takes effort, and there are only so many hours in the day - and they have to fit in a life outside HP, too!

Respecting Each Other

I've explained the two extreme Hubber "types", but most Hubbers are somewhere in between.

Even the most disciplined "business" Hubber enjoys a break from the hard work of Hubbing to browse a few Hubs or forum threads, make a comment or two or help out a newbie Hubber. And many "social" Hubbers are also hoping to make some money from their Hubs.

So the two types of Hubber often find themselves interacting, which can lead to some friction. Social Hubbers can get upset if they leave a comment and no one thanks them, or if they follow someone and aren't followed back, whereas business Hubbers are oblivious that they've offended! Neither side should feel pressured to change - but both sides need to understand and respect each other's right to use HubPages in a way that suits their own needs.

If you find yourself getting addicted to commenting, this Hub on blog comments by J Stankevicz explains how you can make comments on a Hub or blog post an income-producing opportunity rather than just a social thing. However, it's important to understand that when promoting Hubs, links outside HubPages have more value than links inside it. So if your time is limited, it's more profitable to comment on other forums and blogs than on other Hubs.

In short, HubPages is a broad church and there is room for people to use it in many different ways. It's up to you to find the way that suits you - so long as you respect the choices made by others!

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Text copyright Marisa Wright. Trumpet photo by Eusebius. Dog photo by Shannon Yeh.  Coffee photo by lululemon athletica. Garden party photo by charlesdyer.

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Buffoon 2 years ago

Hi Marisa. This is useful for a newbie, so thanks. I've spend a few weeks "lurking", shall we say, to get a feel for the site. Somehow, however, stuff tends to look different from the inside than when one's looking in from the outside :-) Thanks again.

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GeneralHowitzer 2 years ago

Well said Marissa, whew, I passed your criteria and glad I did... I follow back any follower regardless of their score, but from now on I have to be careful because some follower might be spammer. I tried making other accounts but it doesnt last glad it didn't. Its quiet unfair especially when you are arguing in forums with sockpuppets, and that really gave me a bad taste in the mouth. One bad etiquette is by attacking via back door when commenting I think that is unfair too. Yeah sometimes there are some Hubbers that will make some loud noise to promote their wares, hayz its some sort of clean manipulation eh.

Glad you brought this up. Thanks Marissa for this splendid and timely piece you just whipped out.

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msorensson Level 3 Commenter 2 years ago

Thank you for writing this, Marisa. Etiquette is common sense but some of us need to be reminded time and again.

TattoGuy 2 years ago

Nice hub Marissa, if only I had read it 10 months ago lol but I have wised up now and am actually enjoying earning money intead of acting the fool. Many congrats on hitting 1,400 fans, proud to be one of them ; )

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Sandyspider Level 1 Commenter 2 years ago

Thank you for your advice.

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Aya Katz Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

Marisa, thanks for making all that clear. I also appreciated your very clear explanation in the forums that the star/fan relationship is usually not mutual or based on reciprocity.

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Anath 2 years ago

Happy to see someone wrote this. Some people seem to forget etiquette once they hit their keyboard. It doesn't cost anything to be polite and you can gain a lot from it. Thanks Marissa.

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thevoice 2 years ago

bright hub write read thanks

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prettydarkhorse Level 2 Commenter 2 years ago

I think that you said it all Mam! Etiquette at its best from spamming to following a fellow hubber and I am hearing it all. Thank you and you made it more clearer! Maita

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mailxpress Level 1 Commenter 2 years ago

Hello Marisa,

Just yesterday I contacted Hubpages about people spamming in my Hubs using the comment section. I enjoy it when someone leaves a comment and when I go to click on their username to visit their profile, I'm then brought to some blog or website. I was informed I can switch the comment section for only Hubbers who are signed in. I also stopped following a couple of Hubbers for this one way of spam. I got aggravated. It ticked me off.

My original goal joining HP was to earn money BUT over time I found a niche I enjoy writing about. I do research and write a Hub about it. I feel if people read my Hubs and decide they like it, there is usually a link to follow within my Hub. There is nothing wrong with writing about what you enjoy but let the reader decide if they want more.

Everything you described here I happen to agree with. Thank you for writing a Hub which shares my opinion about spamming here on Hubpages.

mailxpress

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Duchess OBlunt Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

Very well said!

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mega1 Level 3 Commenter 2 years ago

Thank you! We have been talking about these things and needing guidance! Well done!

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Rafini 2 years ago

Good information - I am finally finding my balance here on HubPages seeing as how I'm not that social to begin with it doesn't make much sense for me to spend a lot of time in the forums. Guess I had to learn for myself, but a hub on the subject would have been welcome.

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jstankevicz 2 years ago

Thumbs up Marisa! You've done a great service delineating the reasons that people write and read articles. For some it's a hobby, for some it's a business, and of course you can have blended motivations. So there isn't a strict set of rules for behavior, as some seem to think. The forums can be a scary place.

In any event, politeness and civility should be the norm. I've linked to this article on my HubPage on Commenting.

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Marisa Wright Hub Author 2 years ago

@jstankevicz, someone accused me of misunderstanding your Hub, so I'm pleased you know where I'm coming from! Thanks for the comment. I agree it's all about the balance. The social side of HubPages can be a dangerous diversion if you let it!

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FCEtier 2 years ago

Yikes! I'm too new to know about the forums. Maybe I don't need to be there anyway? I do have interests beyond writing so I hope people don't think I'm spamming when I leave a short comment.

Is a one sentence "atta boy/girl" sufficient to recognize someone's writing and let them know that it got read -- without people thinking it's spam?

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Marisa Wright Hub Author 2 years ago

@FCEtier - you don't "need" to be in the forums - it doesn't contribute to income. You may like to join in the Hub-related threads, though, as there's a lot of opportunity to learn.

No, one sentence isn't sufficient, especially if you're commenting on the Hub of a serious Hubber. Too many meaningless comments dilutes the keywords on the Hub. Write a meaningful comment, or settle for "thumbing up".

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Neil Ashworth 2 years ago

Great article.

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Rebecca E. 23 months ago

Marisa- I have to admit, this is an awesome, and I;ll say this for me, I am used to be social hubber, the one who wrote hubs simply to write, but the longer I have been here the more I find I am moving towards a new facet, that of a business hubber.

This hub shows me how much I have to learn from the really serious hubbers out there, who make the money they make... I suspect you are included in that list.

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Internetwriter62 Level 3 Commenter 22 months ago

Thanks Marisa, that hub was an eye opener, I'm kind of a social hubber that wants to have lots traffic. I agree, we all need to respect one another, after all it takes all kinds. You give excellent advice.

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Marisa Wright Hub Author 22 months ago

@internetwriter, my point is that those two things can be opposites: if you spend a lot of time being a social Hubber, you'll get traffic from other Hubbers, but the HubPages community is only small. You won't start making good money until 80% or 90% of your traffic is coming from outside HubPages.

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Shawn Scarborough Level 3 Commenter 22 months ago

This is a great hub. Thanks for taking the time to put this information together.

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RocketCityWriter 18 months ago

Thanks for the hub, I've been wondering about etiquette and the demographic of HP since I started and this covered them both!

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samsons1 Level 5 Commenter 18 months ago

voted up & beautiful! Thanks for this informative hub and the explanation of the different types of users.

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Pat Abbott 16 months ago

I'm brand new here and found this information really useful so, thanks!

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Mike's Corner 15 months ago

Very helpful hub for a new hubber like myself, Marisa, thanks for the great info.

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Alexander Mark 5 months ago

This is THE hub to cover the issue of HP etiquette, thank you. I have a hard time recognizing change, and my forum thread was partially in reaction to not understanding the evolution of HP.

In the beginning (I mean, when I joined 3 years ago), HP made it clear that although you could make money, it wasn't a lot. Now, there are people who make a living here. I also want to be one of those people, but the sad fact is that an aspiring HP writer has to give up the idea that one must be completely involved in the social life of HP. I will still try, but passing another small milestone as to the number of followers I have is pushing me toward the capitalist end of things. Good to know it is an acceptable change.

Very wise words Marisa.

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Laustk 6 weeks ago

Hi Marissa

Really a great Hub :-) Thx for sharing

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